wdu3164 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 The other day I was walking and seen the glimmer of gold on the ground. I picked it up and found what looks like gold in a greyish piece of rock maybe granite. I do not have a test kit, is there another way of finding out what it is. I did try my detectors and none of them went off on it. ThanksBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin nuggethunting Posted August 19, 2013 Admin Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Hey Bill, Looks like pyrite and would mean for the most part it would not be detected. That being said, some pyrites do contain gold. You might want to try and see if some of it will flake off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Rob's right ... probably chalcopyrite ... I've gotten so excited about similar finds over the years, but if it doesn't beep, don't keep ... Unless sparkle's yer fancy! ... Cheers, Unc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdu3164 Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Thanks for the info.What I did was secure it then prick it with the tip of a knife, it did flake little flat pieces. I tried this everywhere I could see it. some of the areas did not flake the knife made a little dent. I then put headphones on and did an airtest with ML Eureka Gold 6.4 - no signal, 20 very faint signal and 60- a better signal. I again did an airtest with the GB Pro and I got a signal but the weird thing about this signal was it was on the edge of the coil about 7 o:clock and the with a reading of 9 in the target Id in disc. mode. In all metal there is not any reading on the graph across the top but I can hear it pass under the coil. Im thinking maybe a minute bit of gold mixed in with pyrite.I had never heard of "Flaking" to see if it might be prite but that makes sense. thanks for all the info.Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawmill Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Here is an easy test. Take one of the rocks with a good bit of the yellow stuff,and break it up . If the yellow stuff shatters into dust it ain't gold. But if it mashesout flat and doesn't shatter,then do a happy dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdu3164 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Well I smashed it. It all broke into small pieces. Oh well, it was fun to think I may have found a piece gold outside of Houston.Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawmill Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Capt. D I think anyone that has searched for gold ,has been fooled a few times morethat they care to admit. Some of us has even walked by gold,because sometimesit is impossible to see. I got tired of wondering,and learned how to do chemical assays. Now I can pack a smalllab in a small tackle box,and test any time that I want to at camp at home, or right in the field.All minerals and metals have reactions with certain chemicals and acid that sets them apartfrom any other mineral or metal. Some have the same reaction ,but with the addition of someother chemical,or another step,you can eliminate the false positive. You can actually disect a rock ,and determine every mineral and metal in it. If you are reallypicky,you can determine how much,and the grade per ton,for every thing in that rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Seeker Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Capt. D I think anyone that has searched for gold ,has been fooled a few times morethat they care to admit. Some of us has even walked by gold,because sometimesit is impossible to see. I got tired of wondering,and learned how to do chemical assays. Now I can pack a smalllab in a small tackle box,and test any time that I want to at camp at home, or right in the field.All minerals and metals have reactions with certain chemicals and acid that sets them apartfrom any other mineral or metal. Some have the same reaction ,but with the addition of someother chemical,or another step,you can eliminate the false positive. You can actually disect a rock ,and determine every mineral and metal in it. If you are reallypicky,you can determine how much,and the grade per ton,for every thing in that rock.Sawmill, Could you explain/detail what is in your "Small Lab"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawmill Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Gold Seeker It depends on what I am doing,or which kit I use. My field kit is kept to being pretty basic.Mostly it contains some test tubes,alcohol burner, spot plate,filter paper,small mortar,andpestle,some evaporating dishes,droppers,a couple syringes,small plastic spoon, gloves,and large tweezers,and plenty of baking soda to kill the acids. I always have a loupe,andpocket microscope ,and accurate scales too. It only takes about 5 minutes to do a goldtest. You don't need a great quanity of acid or chemicals, so an ounce or so of nitric,and hydrochloric each is plenty. One ounce each of the other chemicals is plenty. I make myown stannous solution as needed,so I just carry a piece of tin solder. Most tests can bedone with just a test tube or spot plate,so you don't need a lot of equipment. A baby foodjar or two comes in handy sometimes. I also carry some distilled water,a pint will do a lotof tests, gallon will last for a really long time. Fresh rain water caught in a plastic containerwill work too. My camp kit ,contains ,hydrochloric,nitric,sulphuric, and acetic,acids. Also ammonia,acetone,hydrogen peroxide,along with sodium carbonate,borax,charcoal powder,zinc powder,tin ,puresulphur,potassium iodide,potassium nitrate,potassium,hydroxide,potassium ferrocynide,potassium pyrosulphate,potassium chlorate,tannic acid powder,ammonium carbonate,pyrolusite,sodium hydroxide,sodium nitrate,sodium sulfide,cobalt nitrate,lead acetate,salt of phosphorous,silver nitrate,dymethylglyoxime, and cacothelin. My home kit contains all the above,plus the beadtesting wires and blow pipe. Not all of that is needed by the average prospector,as some is usedfor rare earths, odd ball metals,and minerals. Also in spite of the 5 dollar names,a lot of that stuffcan be found in your kitchen,or shop. And hell no,I didn't invent any of the processes,and have CRS syndrome ,so I carry a note booktoo. Stay up wind,don't lick the spoon,or drink the water,and keep the baking soda handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Seeker Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thanks Sawmill! I'm keeping notes and I will put this to good use!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdu3164 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thanks Sawmill. Ive been going to order an acid test kit. Just never got around to it. I did print your list though and might start gathering some of the chemicals.Thanks Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawmill Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Fellows I found something that will put you right on track for chemical testing. Years ago a very wellknown geologist and mining engineer gave me a first edition copy of this information. My copyhas been well used,but you can down load the 2,nd edition. Search You Too Can Smelt, The title is misleading,because it is also a guide to chemicalassays,and gives you the information for every process,all the supplies,and how to use them. This booklet was wrote for real commercial miners and prospectors. It is written in plain English,and in simple terms. Best of all it is accurate,no BS,and free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdu3164 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Thanks SawmillBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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