sport.pilot Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hello Everyone,I have been thinking for some time about buying one of these to help me swing my 4000 for a longer period. I am trying to reduce some fatigue so I can swing my detector longer. Anybody out there use a Hip Stick? I have a Swingy Thingy that works OK, but I am not that happy with it as I do not like the bobbing up and down that the bungie cord causes. Are these any better? More stable? All opinions are welcome. I am just trying to figure our if it would do me any better. I would like to know the pros and cons. It is hard to tell from the video if the stick or bungie gets in your way when you are using it. Thanks to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggetslayer Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Get a swing-arm, they are the best thing on the market in my opinion. Coil weight doesn't matter, and you can go all day long with out fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2cool Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I know pepole that would never go out detecting without their Hip Stick. I have never used one or the swing arm but I would use the hip stick beforeI would use the swing arm only because I prefer to carry my pick on my shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~LARGO~ Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Darryl,Nuggetslayer is right about the swing arm. Using the swingarm at the end of the day, you will not feel the fatigue, sore wrist, elbow or shoulder, as you would otherwise. It is probably one of the best additions to my detecting warbag that I have made over time. Your ability to swing the detector more precisely and less effort will become apparent once you try the swingarm for at least a day. This is because you are using both arms, shoulders to effect your movements, hence less energy, resulting the feeling better at the end of your detecting day.That being said, the hipstick is not a gimmick, but a cleverly thought out and designed tool, that actually redistributes the weight that normally would be placed on your shoulder, to your hips, where the hipstick has its pivot point. As you should know, your bungee cord is attached to your detecting harness, just at or slightly below your shoulder. The end effect of this is more than likely, a very tired back at the end of a long day, up to 12 hours, more or less, when the weather and energy permits.There are many detectorists across the world, that have found great benefit in this tool, you can find it on youtube, in use, and see for yourself just how it works. I gave an extra one to a friend, and following using it for a short while, he said he would have never believed how much such a product would allow him to detect for so much longer, hence more nuggets in the poke at the end of the day!Hope this helps!~LARGO~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVGOLD Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hi DarrylThe Hip Stick is a a product that takes the work out of a fun hobby, now with that said,adding a swing arm for those large coils can only make the whole experience better. Regards Herb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 As a frequent and happy user of the hip stick, Lucky and Nuggetslayer convinced me into getting a swing arm! I will certainly say they are BOTH great. In the taller grass and on hillsides the swing arm is great. On relativle flat open areas, the Hip Stick would be my choice. They are both in my bag and will stay there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I wouldn't hesitate in getting one. It supports the weight of the coil all on your waist taking all the strain off the shoulder and arm. I should have got one years ago. There well worth it.Wes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigDeep Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I've had one for a couple of years now and feel naked detecting without it. I forgot it at home once and really struggled with putting in 8 hours without it, and was really sore the next day. I used it so much that I actually wore out the little ball on the end and had to replace it.I have not tried the swing arm yet but sounds cool.DigDeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 After having my Hip-stick for a half a year I was kicking myself in the butt for not having it sooner! It REALLY makes a difference. I wont detect without it now. Takes a load off your arm and shoulder, less fatigue equals more swing time. Guido Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 AS others have said, hunting flat and open ground, I've found the HipStick to be an awesome tool...It extends the ground you can cover and saves a lot of muscle and joint pain...It is not very useful in hunting brush choke gullies and steep sidehills and, under those extreme conditions, actually becomes a major hindrance...However, just as I use certain coils for certain situations, the HipStick is a great addition to your gold hunting arsenal for the conditions in which it works...You should have one...Cheers, Unc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Here's a little trick. I too prefer to carry my pick on my shoulder. I also use the SWING ARM! I wouldn't swing without it, but I have to tell you the hip stick is really a great invention and it works great.So how do I carry my pick on my shoulder?OK, I took a 5 inch long piece of 2 inch wide nylon webbing. I folded a 1 1/2 inch piece of the 5 inch long webbing over on to itself and stitched the sides, and made a pocket that I put a super magnet in. Then I stitched the pocket shut. So now I had a little pocket with the super magnet in it which took up 3 inches of my 5 inces, and I have 2 inches of webbing left like a little tail. I stitched that tail onto the top of my shoulder harness. When I put my pick on my shoulder, the magnet jumps up and snaps onto the pick head and holds it on my shoulder without me holding on to the pick.It works great. Pick is always ready and up and away from the coil. When you need it you snap the Swing Arm into the clip that comes with it that attaches to your main rod on your detector to hold it snug and out of the way.http://www.docsdetecting.com/docsplace/coi...oils3.html#acsaBCOT!DocI know pepole that would never go out detecting without their Hip Stick. I have never used one or the swing arm but I would use the hip stick beforeI would use the swing arm only because I prefer to carry my pick on my shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Porter Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I would be completely lost without my Hipstick, so much so that on occasion when I have forgotten it I have just packed up and gone home again rather than detect without it. I have also used it is gully country but I almost always use coils larger than 17" so the weight dictates the need against the scrubby country preventing it from being useful. Here in Australia the demand for the Hipsticks has continued to surprise me with orders coming in every few days even during the quiet times, all credit to Chris Porter for putting in the effort and coming up with such a brilliant and effective design.JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike C... Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Wow sounds like a good device for seniors I like to keep things simple and that means not carring more than I need to sounds like something I can do without---are you all a bunch of wussys or what---man up ---Mike C... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Hey Mike C...That is a funny comment...lol, Just remember that seniors might have thought about what they are doing enoughto have figured out that this HipStick device really worksand it gives them hours more detecting time instead of a sore shoulder or arm or back.And everyone gets those - even youngsters like you I am a senior and use one every time I go out - with every coil I own - in whatever terrain I hunt in.But I used to be a youngster like Mike C and would have appreciated the good advice I read above.(and Mike even a manly man like you could handle it - it weighs a couple of ounces.)Just joking ...you gave me a good excuse to add my admiration for a very smart device.Kudo's to Chris Porter...who is not a senior. And to Jonathan Porter who became an early advocate after trying it outand who gave it authenticity when he began using one.Flak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apw5746 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 As a frequent and happy user of the hip stick, Lucky and Nuggetslayer convinced me into getting a swing arm! I will certainly say they are BOTH great. In the taller grass and on hillsides the swing arm is great. On relativle flat open areas, the Hip Stick would be my choice. They are both in my bag and will stay there!El Dorado,Where do you find the swing arm? I've looked on line an don't seem to find mention or I'm not entering correctly in Google. I noticed it in a recent video that Nuggetslayer took of Lucky and he had one on his detector. Any information is appreciated.h20prospector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroym Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 El Dorado,Where do you find the swing arm? I've looked on line an don't seem to find mention or I'm not entering correctly in Google. I noticed it in a recent video that Nuggetslayer took of Lucky and he had one on his detector. Any information is appreciated.h20prospectorScroll back up the page and click on Doc's link and there it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2cool Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Wow sounds like a good device for seniors I like to keep things simple and that means not carring more than I need to sounds like something I can do without---are you all a bunch of wussys or what---man up ---Mike C...That's funny Mike. You are a man amongst mice here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike C... Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Hi Flak I was just having a little fun --I'm sure it works as good as everyone says it does--if my coil starts to feel heavy from a long day of beepin I just hook the bungy up to it and I'm no spring chicken either ---Mike C... Hey Mike C...That is a funny comment...lol, Just remember that seniors might have thought about what they are doing enoughto have figured out that this HipStick device really worksand it gives them hours more detecting time instead of a sore shoulder or arm or back.And everyone gets those - even youngsters like you I am a senior and use one every time I go out - with every coil I own - in whatever terrain I hunt in.But I used to be a youngster like Mike C and would have appreciated the good advice I read above.(and Mike even a manly man like you could handle it - it weighs a couple of ounces.)Just joking ...you gave me a good excuse to add my admiration for a very smart device.Kudo's to Chris Porter...who is not a senior. And to Jonathan Porter who became an early advocate after trying it outand who gave it authenticity when he began using one.Flak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qld Sandy Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Wow sounds like a good device for seniors I like to keep things simple and that means not carring more than I need to sounds like something I can do without---are you all a bunch of wussys or what---man up ---Mike C... I'll put my hand up for being a wussy. Seriously though, as I use bigger mono coils and prefer the 20" or 25" to swing, the hipstick is a brilliant bit of gear. I don't even disconnect it if I go to my smallest coil, the 14" x 9" as I have gotten so used to it being there. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Hi Mike,Yeah, I get your sense of humor and I wasn't trying to squash it either...you comment is funny. fwiw,Flak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Scott Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 The first time I took the hipstick out was in a really remote hilly area where some good nugs had been found in a couple of gullies. It was so useless on those hillsides, a real hindrance. I just ended up tossing it under a rock for the day and if I hadn't of happened by that same spot on the way out, it would still be there. It would be o.k. in my opinion on flats only but I'd personally go without it there as well. It really gets in the way pinpointing, kneeling down etc. Totally cumbersome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Ted,It sounds like you may have gotten a little impatient which is normal,but it is misleading to say it gets in the way or stops you from kneeling.All you have to do is pull the shaft out of the little holder on your beltor unsnap it at the upper D ring and the whole thing moves around with you with no hinderanceand that includes kneeling down.If you just don't like it, that's another story.Flak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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